IEMs will bring out a bad recording more in my experience, and make it harder to tell where the problem lies. Then again, my experience is more with IEMs than full-size, and IEMs get fatiguing no matter which ones you have.īut a bad recording is a bad recording anyway you slice it and dice it. They are probably some of the only headphones I have heard that I can say that about. The Denon AH-D5000 have incredible treble and they don't fatigue my ears at all. Originally Posted by leng jai /img/forum/go_quote.gif
#Trebel energy free
When I had the Shure E500s it just didn't quite sound all free moving, like a curtain was restricting the flow of intense notes. When playing in high positions, the violin sounds more natural on my HD 650s. I have a good quality XRCD24 violin album with very good acoustics. I can hear it in actions, and the harmonics go very high. Originally Posted by jinx20001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well its very hard to say what a real sound is because as dept of alchemy just mentioned we are all forgetting the music is recorded into mic's so in theory the highs are pretty much amplified in the higher frequencies which may well create sibilance and bangs of sharp sound, so maybe shure picked up on this (being highly experienced in microphones) and laid back the highs for a reason, so actually what we hear from the se530 could well be more ''proper'' due to not as often bursts of, what is loud volume of real high frequencies (sibilance,which is the the sounds such as shhhh chhh and so on at the beginning of words) But at the same time, music won't sound as proper anymore.
#Trebel energy full
If sibilance is inevitable to what you're listening to, the inaccuracy of the SE530 treble would keep the fatigue level of sibilance down dramatically compared to other full sized headphones. Good headphones have no sibilance to pick up from good recordings. Originally Posted by Assorted /img/forum/go_quote.gif Maybe we all need one analytic rig and one forgiving/fun rig to avoid the issue when necessary. I suppose there is no way around revealing that with a good pair of headphones. If you hadn't done that with the headphones you mention, you might well have assumed the Grado would be the most fatiguing for you, and not the others.Įdit, now that you guys have me thinking about it, I do notice that a number of more recent recordings, particularly of certain kinds of music, do tend to have sibilant passages.
And since it is so personal, the only good way to test fatigue in the real world is the old-fashioned way. By definition sibilance isn't good treble, and it's quite fair to ask for more, but don't let that scare you away from headphones you might otherwise like.įatigue can be a different matter I wouldn't tie it to sibilance alone. Recordings can aggravate sibilance, but the issue between good treble and sibilance is, at the level of headphone you're discussing, more a matter of amplification and (to a degree) source. Are there cans out there that have good treble but never get sibilant, or is this impossible because of the poor recordings? So my question is, does good treble mean that sibilance is inevitable due to the bad recordings that are common these days? Considering I'm already getting treble fatigue from these so called dark sound cans, I can't imagine enjoying a pair of K701s or DT990s and their treble emphasis. Interestingly when I plug my E4Cs into my tube amp they become ultra sibilant at any volume level and are pretty much unlistenable. The HD595s are not a particularly bright can but I still used to get treble fatigue from them after a while (say 2+ hours) and the SR60s pretty much killed my ears. And even with these cans, the only cans that I haven't gotten fatigue from sibilance is the HD650s, E4Cs and the UM1s. I've had the UM1s (not much trouble action here), E2C (mmm?), E4C (treble roll off), HD497 (can't remember), HD595 (nothing special), HD650 (laid back treble), SR60s (ultra forward midrange.is it treble?). Sibilance is pretty much my pet peeve when it comes to audio closely followed by a recessed midrange. For the record I've never actually owned a headphone that is known for their treble performance.
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